I've seen many products that claim to reduce scarring? Has anyone tried these and do they work???
I've used Bio Oil and it's been great Alford3097! xoxoxo
I heard bio oil works well and rose hip oil, i haven't tried it myself but these ladies on the forums say so ! =]
Oh yes, I forgot about rosehip oil too! Oooops! xo
Also try vitamin E, either as an oil or straight from a vitamin e capsule. If the scar is old, so well healed try a cream with alpha hydroxy acid to smooth the outer layers of the scar. But use alpha hydroxy acids with caution as some skin types do not tolerate it.
I agree with the Bio Oil it does work.
Oh yes, the bio oil definetely reduces the appearance and the strong colours of them, espcially with my constant bacne!
Bio oil, vit e, rosehip oil, aloe vera gel. However if the scar is really old there's not much you can do - you need to get onto them asap as soon as the wound/cut/etc heals. It also helps to lightly massage the product in, as to prevent lumpy scar tissue from forming.
how did you apply the bio oil? i have some but i'm not sure how to use it. do you dab it onto the scar specifically, or onto the whole area? do you use a cotton bud or anything? ta.
I have a scar from when my appendix was removed, i have never put anything on it and over time it has faded away to a barely visible line.
Pritty kitty - you just apply it like any cream/oil - rub into the area. Gentle massage always helps too.
Reviving an an old thread.
Wondering if any of you tried any of these scar products?
Looking for something to minimise an indented (atrophic) scars.
Other names for indented scars are pockmarks, ice pick scars, and depressed scars.
There's this article that is helpful.
Any advise is much appreciated
preciousia I have used ScarSil and Hiruscar and one other but I found the best remedy was to buy a silicone scar sheet (look on ebay, cheaper there) and a 2mm dermal punch/stamp, some retinol gel and within 6 months you should have a huge difference. Use the punch every 6-8 weeks and use the retinol in between (not for one week either side of the dermal stamping). Use the gel sheet for at least 12 hours a day (not same time as retinol or it will slide off). Not sure where your scar is but if you can't get the gel pad to stick on use some paper tape to attach it. Those creams are messy and don't stay where you put them like the patch does. The patch is washable and re-usable indefinitely provided you care for it right and don't get lotions etc on the active side.
Thank you Duality. Great ADVICE!
I have used scar sheets, Cica Care on a burn scar on my décolletage from a hot oil cooking accident. They work very well on scars that are raised. Not sure about indented scars.
a) What brands scar sheets do you recommend? There are so many brands now. I have tried Duoderm extra thin recently.
There are so many brands now since i last used it many many years ago.
b) how long after the dermastamp will you recommend to use the silicone sheets?
c) Do you use any numbing cream?
sorry i have so many questions.
I bought a 1.5mm dermastamp too. but the scar may be deeper. Will give that a go!
mom took me to a beautician when i was little to remove some moles. The lady used something that went too deep and caused me the "pockmark" that looks like chickenpox scars. one is between the brows, another on the cheek. They aren't too obvious because i am fair but they bug me.
preciousia 1.5 mm derma stamp is probably ok if it is for the thinner skin on the face say on the forehead, but areas with deeper tissue coverage like the cheeks are better with 2.0. I personally don't use numbing cream when I use the 2mm because it doesn't hurt at all, the smaller the length like the 1.0 or 1.5 hurt more and I use tattoo cream for them - but the bigger one doesn't hurt.
Make sure you use the retinol creams because they will help build the collagen too, it's the collagen you are trying to encourage to fill the void. It will bleed too, don't be worried about that it's expected. Clean that off with some warm saline and then apply your post treatment cream.
After the scabs have gone (5-7 days or so) then start using the silicone sheet. Doesn't matter about the brand, silicone is silicone and for the face you can get thin small strips or you can buy a larger one and cut it to size, I have several I will look at them later but I don't think they are brand marked as I bought in a pack of 5 and since have tossed the box.
You could try the TCA cross technique or some people call it TCA toothpick treatment. Personally I have not done it as my scar was a deep indention in my lower leg caused by an accident and not one on my face. But it does have a lot of scientific backing - summary of one is here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2956965/
edit to add: the reason you use the silicone sheet is that it encourages collagen growth, there are studies showing that more collagen is produced when wearing a silicone patch than without. The collagen is what you are trying to encourage to fill the void, as I said above
Thanks so much for taking the time to write me Duality. I truly appreciate it, you're like big sister i never had.
I'm gonna buy this book recommended to me and study up before i start.
So far, i have tried 0.2mm. 0.5mm is waiting for me to try, that just arrived. 1.5mm in the mail.
I will try the 1.5mm needle first for the scars and may go up.
Unfortunately, the scar between the brows is deeper.
Will be geting EMLA or 5% lidocaine or maybe a prescription strength numbing cream to help numb the area.
I know there will be bleeding and i am not sure how i'll handle it. Will have to suck it up. No pain no gain.
Apparently microneedling is better than LASER! Medically proven to work on scars.
Someone i know said it helped a scar 30+ year old. WOW.
I am preparing my body and face. Building it up before i try the microneedling .
Also have gotten an arsenal of products to treat.
- numbing cream
- gentle cleanser (Cetaphil) and toner
- rubbing alcohol
- Copper Peptides
- healing cream
- Silver Cream for antibacteria & antiseptic creams
- anti-itch hydrocortisone
- Hemorrhoid cream to reduce swelling
- Occlusive ointment with vitamins to prevent moisture loss.
Will get the saline and scar sheets/gel.
TCA works i know but i am afraid it is a little too advanced for me currently.
Will try the gentler peels first and work my way up there.
With the silicone sheets: How do you apply products if you were to use the sheets. i know the sheets work but i want the skin to be nourished especially during the healing phase with vitamins, moisture, copper etc.
It's a pain juggling everything I know! What I did was for the daytime 12 hours I would wear my creams and cover with paper tape. Then I would shower and cleanse the area of any oils or residue then pop the silicone patch on at say about 8pm then leave it overnight and remove it in the mornings and apply the creams again. Just make sure you have no scabs in the area before applying retinols or the patch.
Got it! Thanks
Sorry again for my questions.
How is Silicone different from Occlusive creams they recommend like Infadolan (vit. A & D ointment) http://shop.owndoc.com/product-info.php?infadolan-pid177.html
similar function? Keep it moist and prevent bacteria?
Would the silicone cream be better since no tape is required?
I intend to getnumbing cream
Have already bought anti-bacteria creams
1) Dettol Anti - Septic cream
2) Silver Nitratre cream
3) Scar Zone Analgesic & Antiseptic (also numbs)
did you manage to see my reply on your enquiry re your daughter's acne? i really hope she is able to find a solution. Acne is awful. beautyheaven website been acting funny. I am not getting some updates.
I have Infadolan and use it immediately post needling but silicone is different and works differently as it creates a reaction in the skin that promotes it to produce collagen. They say that is is a combination of pressure/compression, electro-static activity and occlusion of the wound that makes it work. The cream version you lose some of this. The tube version of the silicone is messy and if you put it on before sleeping it can easily wipe off and it is usually used only in areas that a patch wouldn't work like say above the eye or something.
Have you tried the patches? Mine are super-sticky and really stay on well without tape, but if you only needed a small one then you can cover with tape to keep it on.
You explain it so elegantly. duality
i tried duoderm recently. Recommended by the pharmacist, it's not too expensive and thinner than the 1st generation of silicone sheets i used. sticks really well. maybe a bit too well. i have to clean off the sticky bits off the skin.
I was recommended to leave the silicone sheets for a few days... it actually stuck on for like 5 days before it started peeling.
it didn't help with my scar. now i am using 2 products from skinactives which include growth factors and copper peptides to try to help.
i can see how silicone gel can be so messy and end up all over the sheets.
Will give them a go!
Duality, Where do you buy your Infadolan?
Yes I bought it there when I bought my dermal rollers. It's pretty cheap and it lasts forever, still hav one unopened tube!
duality thanks for getting back to me. i was thinking of buying from owndoc. they have really good information on microneedling on their site!
I wonder if A+D Ointment is similar to Infadolan
Palmers has a great oil, helped get rid of most of my scars :)
I love bio oil and rosehip oil, they are so gentle and soothing, great for face aswell
• A small roll on bottle
• A small funnel
• 33% Castor oil
• 66%Tamanu oil
• 5 drops lavender essential oil
• 5 drops helichrysum essential oil
• 5 drops carrot seed essential oil
• 5 drops elemi essential oil
• 5 drops frankincense essential oil
Begin by adding each essential oil to the empty roller bottle
Next, carefully add the tamanu and castor oil using the small funnel
That’s it! Cap it tightly and use often!
Use 2-3 times per day until the desired results are achieved.
Reviving this topic :) I’m about to have some scarring on my face from skin cancer removal and would love to know what beauties have found to work best to minimise scarring. I’m fair and scar really easily. Many suggest bio oil but being on my face I’m curious what else people have found to work for them.
I was fortunate to receive this product as one of the goodies in the discovery bag so a huge thank you to BH.
Unfortunately, my skin just did not like this. I loved the scent and the feel of my face after using it, but as I said my face just oozed oil afterwards.
First of all, a huge thanks goes to BH for allowing me to try this out as it came as one of the products in the discovery bag.
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